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I have allegedly been charged with apostasy

by Igot2bme in

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i recieved a letter today and it reads:.

sister jennifer b****,.

we request your presence for a judical hearing.

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But how can they DF one without them being present to" admit" the crime, unless they have "absolute proof" or a witness of two or three??? Because if that was the case they would be sued a kazillion times over? They can't just DF because you're not going to the meetings?!

One can have a successful fade as long as they don't have people around them to run to the elders if.....let's say you have Christmas lights up.....or go around trying to enlighten other JW's

On the other hand. If one is constantly around them, I would say the best alternate route would be to DA oneself.

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I have allegedly been charged with apostasy

by Igot2bme in

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i recieved a letter today and it reads:.

sister jennifer b****,.

we request your presence for a judical hearing.

mind blown

@ Palmtree67 basically that was the bottom line. I thought it a joke myself.

The hammer comes down just as I and MrMonroe explains. However, instead of three brothers little ol me had four, trying to muscle me into immediate repentence . Yes, they the noose ready and waiting for your appearence....

DON'T GO....RUN FOR THE HILLS.....hahah......or get an attorney. Question? If one gets an attorney can or will they DF?

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I have allegedly been charged with apostasy

by Igot2bme in

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i recieved a letter today and it reads:.

sister jennifer b****,.

we request your presence for a judical hearing.

mind blown

Hi Jennifer...If I may give you a tip?

Whatever you do. Don't go. If you do they'll ask you questions, which you will be inclined to answer honestly, and they will DF you because of your honesty and because you won't don't want to go back...

They can't DF you if you're not there, unless they have "absolute proof"and then that has to be confirmed by two or three or by proof by photos or what have you. Think real hard were they would have come up with this. Is it a family member, friend, FB, here...they still have to fucking prove it.

I so regret going to my Judicial Meeting. Same BS, I had faded. My letter didn't say why, so I stupidly go and they say well, (I can't rememvber if they said the sisters name or they said a sister) saw me smoking. They asked me if I had and since I didn't think I needed to lie at that point I said yes, but I'm not smoking now. Then they asked if I was going to stop and I told them, well, I honestly hadn't thought about it. Then they asked if I was going to repent and I told them no because I'm not going to repent because they dragged me in there and tried to muscle me.....I'm going to do it becasue I really feel it in my hart. The keep trying to muscle me, scare my about the big A, read me more scripture, play on guilt and I stood my ground sayig the same thing.....I'm not going to repent because I'm afraid of dying at end.....I should do it because I''m truly sorry. So they said I had by the end of the week to be sorry or they were going to announce my name.

The only reason I regret going and getting DF is because my child is now studing.....and we're very close.....I even mentioned what they would try to do between our relationship.....and sure as shit.....it happened.....but thank goodess my child is no sap and can see a lot of the BS now, though still studying....

I feel for you and hope you can find a calming way out of this BS.

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Changing plans...

by OneDayillBeFree in

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fading,.

ive been going over it so many times in my mind.

it seemed like a great idea before but things have changed, i have changed.. the more i learn and the more awake i become, the more i feel like fading is becoming less and less of an option.. the only reason i wanted to fade was to keep communication with my family, mainly my parents, but i've come to realize that they would shun me either way.

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I agree w/Black Sheep. You don't need to DA. You are playing by their rules and will result as if you were DF'd. Jdubs will shun you anyway.

I was DF'd out of stupidity. I wish I would have faded only because I still have family in ...:(

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Whistleblower Watchtowers Dump

by Marvin Shilmer in

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whistleblower watchtowers dump.

today i added a new article to my blog sharing the whistleblowers letter to new yorks department of environmental conservation (dec) disclosing watchtowers pollution sites and incidents related to it.

my article is titled whistleblower watchtowers dump and is available at: http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2011/12/whistleblower-watchtowers-dump.html.

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First off. To all, the utmost best, into the New Year

When I first read this post a thought came to mind, "well these barrals are very, very, old. What were dumping laws back then?" However, on futher consideration, It really doesn't matter what the laws were back then. The WTS still knew, in this current century, those barrels were "still" there with updated disposal laws, and hadn't done anything about it. It's not like they didn't have the money. And, it doesn't matter if they felt the big A was coming. It's the law of the land.

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Help requested for court case

by Anony Mous in

i am looking for court cases and news reports on underage children being denied blood transfusions and as a result either having the court intervene or death.

any report especially 2008-2011 will work very well.. also any jw publication that says jw's die rather than accepting blood.

also any jw publication that encourages this practice in regards children especially official documents and recent publications (2005-2011 or whenever the last doctrinal change was).. .

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Aussie Oz Best advice so far and very true!

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Help requested for court case

by Anony Mous in

i am looking for court cases and news reports on underage children being denied blood transfusions and as a result either having the court intervene or death.

any report especially 2008-2011 will work very well.. also any jw publication that says jw's die rather than accepting blood.

also any jw publication that encourages this practice in regards children especially official documents and recent publications (2005-2011 or whenever the last doctrinal change was).. .

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I don't care what state you're in. If you're married, your x just can't legally take your child. Period. Unless she kidnaps him or her. If that's the case you'll have to file an order against her. If she doesn't let you see him or her you can even call the police. It's against the law. You should get letters of recomendation from anyone who will give you a good word, prove you're going to support the child in some way, show you're not a danger to the child in anyway by not having past police records, prove you have good credit, no accidents, etc.....what ever it takes, if there's going to be a fight.

If married, you should file devorce proceedings, you'll have the upper hand by requesting patial custudy. She will most likey give it to you because if she doesn't, she's going to have a fight and pay for more attorney fees. The judge will side with you. Blood issue or not you're still his or her father and the court wants the father to be involved unless he's a career criminal or drug addict.

If not married. You will have still file a court action. If she denies you're the father. Then a blood test will have to be arranges by order of the court. If she admits your the father, then, you should have letters of recomendation, by anyone, who will put in a good word for you as well as show you're going to contibute finacially to the child, etc.

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My JW sibling & his family are coming over friday night

by TTWSYF in

so, at my house we have a christmas party annually.

i told my koolaid drinking bro that i'd tone down the xmas part if he and his family would come and they said 'yes'.. my parents and other siblings are very merrily shocked.. my question to this board is....what should i do or say or not do or say to keep the peace should jw topics arise?.

i guess i'm looking for advice to get them to think without scaring them off.. thanks,.

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This is really nice...:)

I would not say a word and if they do...unless they want you to show them proof.....I'd side step the whole topic.

One main family member used to shun me really hard....but as of late....she's being really nice and even conversational.....

I told her a while ago that I felt something was wrong with the BORG. She responded "so are you saying they are from Satan?" my response "No, I'm not saying they are from Satan. I'm saying, something is wrong with the GB. I believe all other JW's are only doing what they're told...but something is diffently wrong with the GB". She said well, it will all come out in the wash and for now..where am I to go if this is true?"

Since then, I say nothing to any of my JW's relatives re WTS. They can see by my character, I'm even more loving and kind, then MANY JW's .......and it seems like it's working...on top of the WTS own mishaps with new light......etc........they will eventually figure it out........and if not......I personally feel.......they are adults and if they need that kind of institution in life...then so be it......

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Victoria, Australia: The long edition (new) of Part 2 of Steven Unthank's report of molestation/rape within the Traralgon Cong.

by AndersonsInfo in

http://www.jwnews.net/.

crisis of conscience within the traralgon congregation of jehovahs witnesses?

part 2december 18, 2011 by sitepost .

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Thank You Barbara!!

I agree with Phizzy I think once this case gets going and a trial actually begins, there will be media coverage. Right now investigations still seems to be going on and ground work is being laid.

I do hope the case gets good and nasty so those BG bastards can go to jail!

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Breaking News from Steve Unthank - Police Launch Investigation into Traralgon Congregation

by Broken Promises in

australia, breaking news: police launch investigation into the rape and molestation of a number of children with the traralgon congregation of jehovah's witnesses.

jw news can report that victoria police have launched an investigation into the rape and molestation of a number of children within the traralgon congregation of jehovah's witnesses over the past two years.

according to initial reports,... the body of elders were strictly ordered by the watchtower bible and tract society of australia to cover-up the multiple rapes of a number of children within the traralgon congregation allegedly committed by a fellow member of the jehovah's witness religion.

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Thank You for the update. As usual this case has me at the edge of my seat!

It's without question a Pandora's Box, isn't it?! I guess I should say the WTS is a Pandora's Box full of evil/dark secrets.

I dunno, I feel bad for all those who truly believe that the GB has JW's best interest at hart. I have a sick feeling in my stomach and feel rather sad these evil men (GB) have mislead millions upon millions of people, as well as my own family, and one time even myself..... :(

Once this case really get's going I wonder if they'll be thrown in jail. I hope so